The Strangest Health Questions Doctors Actually Get

What We Discuss:

00:00 Meth & Sleep Problems
00:45 Welcome to the Smarter Not Harder Podcast
02:00 Strangest DMs
03:10 Morning Wood Myths Explained
05:00 Sperm Tests, Drugs & Lifestyle Risks
06:40 When Supplements Go Wrong
08:00 Priapism: 3-Day Erection Story
09:40 Sexual Health & Medication Risks
11:00 COVID, Sex Parties & Misinformation
12:40 Meth Use & Neurotransmitter Burnout
14:20 Telemedicine’s Strangest Cases
15:00 “I Fell on It” ER Stories
16:40 Hidden Risks of Foreign Objects
17:40 Viagra Requests & Urine Therapy Myths
19:30 Health Fads That Endanger Patients
20:20 Metabolomics: Truths Patients Don’t Admit
22:00 Hormone Therapy’s Surprising Effects
24:00 Personalized Medicine in Real Life
26:00 Closing Reflections & Lessons Learned
Full Transcript:

[00:00:00] Dr. Allen Bookatz: This one was a guy who came in, this was a couple years ago. The chief complaint was, I can't sleep. I'm like, what's going on? And he is like, I just keep taking meth and I can't sleep. And I'm like, you know, and he's like very concerned about this. I did meth on Tuesday. Usually like when you take meth and you're up for three days and then you take meth again and you're up for three days.

[00:00:16] He's like, there's just a point where your body just like can't stay up anymore and then you finally crash. And he's like, and I'm really worried that like I've passed that point and I'm just never gonna get to sleep again. And I was like, so what are you gonna do? And he is like. I'm thinking about taking some more meth.

[00:00:43] Boomer Anderson: Welcome back everybody to the 'Smarter Not Harder' Podcast. We have the full fam involved today, half of which are rocking the Biont Hacker t-shirt. So, thank you guys for acknowledging your true nature. Oh wow, that was sort of like a... A shoulder move. I don't know what's going on. I don't even know what to call that. That was the Harlem Shake almost.

[00:01:03] So if you're not watching this, I wanted to just— to describe what happened here. Dr. Ted began the podcast with a version of the Harlem Shake. So he's bringing back the early 2000s.

[00:01:14] And speaking of the early 2000s, we're gonna talk about, the thousands of DMs or messages that you may get from clients, from— maybe not clients, but people— around the health world. And since all of us here are healthcare practitioners, I think we might have experience with those questions that sort of make you either cringe, or double take, or perhaps laugh, and sometimes all three. So, we'll kick things off with the person who I'm assuming might get the most of these types of reactions.

[00:01:48] Madam Jodi Duval. If we're gonna float or volley this over to you, and you can take this any way you want: things that came to you on Instagram, in your clinic, whatever. What are... Or what is the most— I don't know if we want to call this hilarious or interesting— message you've received. 

[00:02:07] Jodi Duval: Okay. Well, I've got a few because I couldn't really narrow it down to like one, because I thought the others needed to be said.

[00:02:14] But yes, I do get quite a few messages generally relating to... odd skin conditions in weird places. So I'll- I'll get the odd opening of my instagram.

[00:02:25] Boomer Anderson: Do you get, do you get photos? Do you get photos?

[00:02:27] Jodi Duval: I do, I do.

[00:02:28] Boomer Anderson: That's unfortunate.

[00:02:28] Jodi Duval: Unwanted photos of skin conditions in places I don't really want to know outside of the clinic room that I can look away. But unwarranted, un- unprepared for. But the funniest things do generally happen in the clinic room. Aside from all the odd messages even about, you know, how long I should spend in the sun or should I buy this lamp, or I've got this burn and it was from this and I've burnt myself too, doing weird things. But— but the funniest things I think I've heard or seen was a particular client actually asking me was very, very concerned.

[00:03:03] And this client was... I think around, well, I think it was 40. So it, he'd had some, you know, some time on this earth already. And he was very concerned that he was getting an erection every morning and he thought there was something seriously wrong with him. So I had to then, you know, proceed to explain that morning wood is actually very healthy and you are very lucky to be experiencing this. So that was number one.

[00:03:29] Boomer Anderson: So, so just to interrupt here, he was 40 and this is sort of the first time he is experiencing this or that he, the first time he's noticing it. 

[00:03:37] Jodi Duval: No. Yeah, I think it's the first time he is noticing it, but because his partner was saying this, there must be something wrong with you because every morning you wake up with an erection and she was like, this is, this is not good. Like you can't be like this every morning. So he was like, please help me. I don't want this to be happening anymore.

[00:03:55] Dr. Scott Sherr: Oh, my. 

[00:03:56] Boomer Anderson: Yeah, you can. Did you recommend like partner divorce?

[00:04:00] Jodi Duval: Yeah, I said, "You need to go find someone who's actually happy for that one." 

[00:04:04] Dr. Ted Achacoso: I actually would like to piggyback on that one for getting back to you. That's actually one of the things I got called for by phone, you know. And says Doctor, you know, this was a man in his, mid fifties, right? And he was under total hormone balancing and says, " Doctor, I'm having morning wood." And of course, that's from the hormone balancing. I said, "Well, that's from hormone balancing."

[00:04:29] And I said, "Do you wanna, do you want me to oblate it? Because I can just take that down", you know? And then he said, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no." I said, "Oh, so you like it?" And I said, "So you're merely gloating then that you're having morning wood." And he said, "Well, if you come to think of it, yes." So anyway, that's, that's like, to piggyback on your, on your story there.

[00:04:51] Jodi Duval: How good am I, Ted? He says. 

[00:04:54] Dr. Ted Achacoso: He got, he got so afraid when I said, you want me to oblate it? Because we can. 

[00:05:00] Jodi Duval: Gosh. So the other one was: a client of mine was getting a sperm test done. I think some of you have heard this story previous to this, but he came in and he's like, "I'm getting my sperm tested tomorrow." , "And I wanna take drugs tonight.", and I won't name it 'cause it'll be too specific.

[00:05:18] And he is like, "So, what's that gonna do… what's that gonna do to my sperm test? Because my wife's gonna be really upset if she finds out." And I looked at— I was researching, telling him all about it and I said, "Look, it's not ideal. It's not going to be something that's gonna come back well on the test."

[00:05:33] Anyway, he sends me a sperm test a couple of weeks later and he comes in and we discuss it and it, you know, didn't look good, look too good. He is 50 by the way. And I said to him, "Well, it could have been worse if you actually took, you know, the drugs." And he is like, "Oh, I did, I didn't listen to you." What's the point in asking me then? Oh, anyway, that was the second one.

[00:05:54] And then the last one I wanted to say is... So I had a client come in. We give compounded herbs. And so generally the amount they take so around, like seven mils, and it's twice a day. So I had a client call me up and say, "I'm feeling so unwell. I've just vomited and it's been a couple of days, and every time I take your herbs, I feel so sick and I'm running to the toilet." I'm like, "Oh my gosh, you've had a really bad reaction. I'm like, how much are you taking?" They're like, "Oh, I'm taking the 70 mils that you told me to take."

[00:06:22] And I'm like, " No, no, no, no, no. It is seven- seven mills. So they were necking back like a huge amount of herbal medicine, and it doesn't, it generally seven mils is enough. You don't wanna be taking any more than that. So it was just, and it was on their prescription. It was on the bottle. Nothing said seven mils, but they just taken that as the dose to take.

[00:06:44] So yes, it's either the questions that we have or the things that— clients are not listening to that are pertinent when you want them to be doing the things they need to be doing. So, they're my three. They're my three. 

[00:06:58] Dr. Scott Sherr: Love it, love it, love it.

[00:06:59] Boomer Anderson: Well played. We probably should have a separate episode for what slips into Jodi's DMs and just, we'll do it like over a campfire and just share photos.

[00:07:09] We'll figure out a great way to censor names and, you know. DMs with Jodi. That's gonna be your sideshow. All right, let's move on here. The person also, the second person who probably has the best answers to this is what happens in the emergency room. And so I wanna pass things over to Dr. Bookatz because candidly, I've heard some of your stories and they've— out of the stories that I've heard here— it's been you and Jodi who've put me on the floor laughing. So, let's pass it over to you.

[00:07:40] Dr. Allen Bookatz: I mean... I guess it- I mean I wasn't gonna bring this one up, but I think when Jodi mentioned the whole, you know, the wood theme, let's just continue that, you know, continue that along. So this wasn't gonna be the original one. 

[00:07:53] Boomer Anderson: Welcome to Morning Wood with the SNH Podcast. 

[00:07:57] Dr. Allen Bookatz: So let's just say instead of the— let's just say the episodic daily morning wood. One of the strangest questions— there's several that I can talk about, but was, "Is it normal to have a hard on for three days?"

[00:08:08] Was the question. And so there's a gentleman who came in, who had a— kind of blood clotting disorder. And then, took some types of drugs and then had a condition called basically priaprism— which is where the blood flow, the blood goes into the penis, and then it clots and then it doesn't go out.

[00:08:25] And so he said that he took some, Tadalafil and which is known to increase blood flow. And then he goes to some sex parties. And then, like, he said, it was just like, he's like, it was this amazing experience. 'cause it'd just like would not go down right. For a full day. And he thought he would just like continue the party, right?

[00:08:43] And so he goes for almost 24 hours and then he like passes out and he wakes up and he still has this like, you know, large erection and then just keeps going, right? For another like day. And then finally, I don't think like by day three he's exhausted and he's like. I think I've— I think I've passed the point of where I- you know, I feel comfortable with- you know, with what's happening with my body.

[00:09:04] Jodi Duval: No use to him anymore. 

[00:09:06] Boomer Anderson: Well, I think just one quick thing for anybody listening to this. If you're outside the United States, you have to realize that in the United States, it's one of two countries in the world where you're allowed to advertise prescription drugs. And on Tadalafil, when they came out with the original advertisement— I mean- did this guy actually watch the advertisement?

[00:09:25] Because he said- it says on the advertisement like, if you have an erection for three days, go see the doctor. I guess that's why he's going to see you.

[00:09:32] Dr. Allen Bookatz: I think he's like three or four hours, actually.

[00:09:34] Dr. Scott Sherr: Four hours.

[00:09:34] Boomer Anderson: No, no. Tadalafil was longer.

[00:09:36] Dr. Ted Achacoso: No- 36 hours. But you have to be ready, right? Yeah. You don't have the erection all the time. With proper stimulation, you'll get an erection while supposedly.

[00:09:45] Boomer Anderson: Okay. We'll have to link to the commercial in the show notes. Right. 

[00:09:48] Dr. Allen Bookatz: So that was, that was a good one. And then, and then I guess— I mean, we can keep going here. There's another— another good one. This is COVID era.

[00:09:53] So, you know, everybody was really afraid of what was happening and you know, everyone's masking up right. Uh, but yet, you know, people's proclivities continue. And so someone had come in and they had gone to a sex party. It was a safe sex party apparently. And what that meant was, yeah, yeah, exactly. And so, but not in the same, the safe sex, I think we're all thinking here.

[00:10:14] Uh, and so there's this, uh. There's this concept where you can take a sheet, I guess, and put it in a, uh, above a doorframe and you can cut a hole in it, right? And, uh, and then, uh, insert a particular orifice, you know, uh, a protrusion through the hole and, you know, and then there's an exchange of acts, right? And so, and so we, we had the guy come in.

[00:10:37] Dr. Ted Achacoso: Is not a safe one? It's an anonymous one. 

[00:10:39] Dr. Allen Bookatz: It, it was however you wanna look at it, right?

[00:10:41] Jodi Duval: Anonymous.

[00:10:43] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Turns out someone popped, you know, positive for, uh, it was one of those uncomfortable phone calls. You know, after the act I have COVID, right? So. I guess there's many other things I could have said.

[00:10:53] But anyway, this person roll rolls in and, uh, I'm like, and I'm like, well, thinking, I'm like, well, you don't have any cough or fever. And I'm like, how do I, uh, like, what, what do you want me, like, how am I supposed to test with this? You know? And he asked if he, we could tech check him for COVID, uh, you know, in his, uh, urethra.

[00:11:13] So that was a, that was a strange one. So he thought he had like penis COVID. So that was, that was a good one. And then, uh,

[00:11:18] Dr. Scott Sherr: Do you wanna do the bomb story? I think the bomb story is necessary.

[00:11:22] Dr. Allen Bookatz: No, the bomb. The bomb was a little- uh, that was— no, I have a- I have a bad-

[00:11:26] Boomer Anderson: By, by the way, the bomb story is one of like 12 that are in my head right now.

[00:11:30] Dr. Allen Bookatz: We can do the bomb. Well maybe say the bomb— the bomb is a little graphic. This one's, this one's, uh, you know, we're, we're health optimization, right? So rhythm is, is one of our many, uh, is one of our many disciplines. And so this one was a guy who came in, this is a couple years ago, and, uh. The chief complaint was, uh, it, I can't sleep.

[00:11:49] So I go in, I talk to him, I'm talking to him and I'm like, what's going on? He is like, yeah, I just, I can't sleep. And I'm like, what's going on? He's like, you know, I was like, he's like, I just keep taking meth and I can't sleep. And I'm like, can't take meth. And you, you know, and he's like, very concerned about this.

[00:12:04] And, and, and I was like, well, when was the last time you, you know, you slept? He's like, Tuesday, it's Saturday. Okay. I was like, all right, well, has this like worked for you before? Because he seemed really worried. And then, and then he's like, yeah, I did meth on Tuesday. And then, you know, I was up for three days and then I got, I couldn't get to sleep, so I took some more meth and then, uh, and then I, I haven't been able to get to sleep since.

[00:12:30] And I'm like, well, help. I was like, help me understand like what, what you're doing here, because, you know, and he goes, well, you know, usually like when you take meth and you're up for three days and then you take meth again and you're up for three days, he's like, there's just a point where your body just like can't stay up anymore and then you finally crash.

[00:12:45] And he's like, and I'm really worried that like I've passed that point and I'm just never gonna get to sleep again. And I was like, so what are you gonna do? And he is like, I'm thinking about taking some more meth, you know?

[00:12:59] Boomer Anderson: Uh, let's bring this back to health optimization in our transmitters, right? Yeah.

[00:13:03] Dr. Allen Bookatz: So he used his, uh...

[00:13:05] Boomer Anderson: so he is just completely fried, his dopamine production and—

[00:13:09] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Yeah, he- he— 

[00:13:10] Boomer Anderson: Yeah, go ahead.

[00:13:11] Dr. Allen Bookatz: I think that guy, I, I left the room and, um, I think I, I was like, he used like yesterday's, or like last week's neuro— or he used like next week's neurotransmitters like last week— is my, uh, conclusion there.

[00:13:22] Boomer Anderson: So Haldol and a Turkey sandwich?

[00:13:27] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Something like that.

[00:13:29] Boomer Anderson: All right. I, I'm. I'm, I'm kind of scared of where we're gonna go from there. Uh, but to- 

[00:13:36] Jodi Duval: ...wheel this in a bit.

[00:13:38] Boomer Anderson: Yeah.

[00:13:38] Dr. Allen Bookatz: These are the tame ones, by the way. 

[00:13:40] Jodi Duval: We got the crazy ones out the way first.

[00:13:42] Boomer Anderson: Uh, like earlier where we said DMs with Jodi, I think there's a late night show that we had with Dr. Allen Bookatz and garden hoses and other things that go up people's— 

[00:13:54] Dr. Allen Bookatz: We'll talk about like joy- the joys of— the strangeness of telemedicine consults another time. But that's a, that's a whole 'nother— 

[00:14:00] Boomer Anderson: All right, uh, Dr. Kuiper joining us live from Bali. Uh, I would love to hear the crazy things that come into your DMs. 

[00:14:10] Dr. Jup Kuipers: Being a doctor in Amsterdam. I mean. Got stuff going in people's orifice, I think we have to continue this line just a little longer. It's funny, I don't know what it says about us or people in general, but the first story I was gonna tell was also like, uh, priaprism stories, but I'm gonna pivot now to something else. So I used to work at the OLVG uh, the surgery department and on quite the regular daily basis, people would come in with that story:

[00:14:40] "I fell on it". So, they shoved something up their anus and they had trouble getting it out. And so usually what happens is they use too much lube. And you can imagine if it goes into deep, they try to grab it out, but the more you squeeze it, the further you push it in. And so. They actually have a trophy closet in the hospital of the stuff they have to remove from people's rectums.

[00:15:09] And this ranges from very tiny dildos to things like light bulbs and children's toys. So if you're ever in the Amsterdam are- area— OLVG Hospital. And you want that cultural exhibition, just go to the trophy room and see all the magnificent things that people in Amsterdam like to shove up their rectum.

[00:15:32] Jodi Duval: Light bulb. 

[00:15:33] Boomer Anderson: Okay. Okay. I, I now inter- I interject because, uh, I think Dr. Bookatz and Dr. Kuiper have a, a new show coming out together. Yeah.

[00:15:45] Jodi Duval: I think we all just need to be on.

[00:15:47] Dr. Ted Achacoso: And the show is gonna be called, "What The F- Gerbils." So— 

[00:15:51] Boomer Anderson: Yeah. Yeah. Or, or rec- "Rectum Damn Near Killed Them", that might be a good one. 

[00:15:55] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Yeah. Things- yeah. Things you didn't know, uh, were— Yeah. "Things You Didn't Know Were Boofable." 

[00:16:01] Boomer Anderson: Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna keep on a boofing theme tonight.

[00:16:08] Oh. Oh, Amsterdam, I miss you. Uh, all right. Uh, so. All right. I-

[00:16:18] I think we might be getting tamer as we go here, although let's go to Dr. Sherr first and see- yeah. I guess all of you have experience in hospitals, so you might have some stuff to share outside of the realm of health optimization. Uh, okay. Dr. Sherr, to you. 

[00:16:34] Dr. Scott Sherr: I mean, I- I have nothing on these guys so far and it's better you go to me because I'm gonna be very boring compared to Dr. Ted's finale, I think. Overall— the things that he talks about. One thing that I think was interesting, I guess it kind of has to do with what— these are both interesting but not as interesting as far as I'm concerned— but you can tell me. The first one is...

[00:16:53] one of my first patients ever when I was just, I was in medical school and he was a veteran. The veteran was on... 25 different medications. And every time he came to see me, he's like, "Doc, can you gimme some Viagra? I just need some Viagra." I'm like, "Dude, you have heart failure." And like, "I can't, you might die if you take this medication."

[00:17:15] And like, I got to know him and he is really nice guy. And like he just, you know, he's like, every time he a- he'd ask me, he's like, "Doc, I really want the Viagra please." He's like, "I want to go out. Fucking." That's all he— Finally he- finally, he admitted- admitted to me. It took a long time, like when he- when he started getting used to me, he's like, like after like about a year, I was like,

[00:17:35] "Dude, why do you really want this so much? I, you can't get it. If you do take it, this is what's gonna happen." And then he finally just came out and said it. So I appreciate it. It took a while, but, you know, it was very cute and I mean, reasonable, you know, we all can agree. So, um, the other story that I was thinking about, and this is actually more, um, on the—

[00:17:52] Not exactly my patient, but this happened to somebody. Well, that I know very well, is that. There is this weird trend out there for drinking urine, right? And so I don't really understand it. I think many of you don't understand it either. I had a patient of mine ask me if they could, they could drink urine.

[00:18:10] I told them no. And I had another patient of mine asked me the same thing, and then they said, well, my, my friend was drinking his urine and he started getting really, really great erections, and I wanna try it too. And I'm like, no. And then of course, what does he do? He tries it anyway. And he comes back and he tells me he's getting erections.

[00:18:28] I'm like, "Dude, it has nothing to do with you. That's all I can tell you."

[00:18:30] Dr. Jup Kuipers: That's called a fetish.

[00:18:31] Dr. Scott Sherr: Thank you for telling. 

[00:18:33] Dr. Allen Bookatz: That's called a— 

[00:18:35] Boomer Anderson: Yeah. I, I think that's, I think this is, uh, another way to start a show. Scott. "Golden Showers with Scott Sherr".

[00:18:41] Dr. Ted Achacoso: No. Golden showers with your mouth open. 

[00:18:46] Boomer Anderson: Yeah. All right. That's, uh, another- another- another- uh, yeah, another smoothie for the morning. 

[00:18:52] Dr. Allen Bookatz: We could bring this home with the urea cycle. Right? And ammonia.

[00:18:57] Jodi Duval: I was wondering

[00:18:58] Dr. Allen Bookatz: What- what might— what might we expect on someone's labs that metabolome's profile is them drinking their urine. 

[00:19:04] Dr. Scott Sherr: Maybe it's your oral organic acid testing.

[00:19:10] Dr. Jup Kuipers: Very advanced.

[00:19:15] Boomer Anderson: All right. Uh, bring us on home, Dr. Achacoso. 

[00:19:19] Dr. Ted Achacoso: Well, um, you know. Your stories are actually extremely funny. Um, mine are more on the— practical level that will make you laugh. You know, it says, here's a- a patient that comes in and says, "Oh, I'm vegan." and then you take a look at the metabolomics test and it says, "Oh, answering... chicken."

[00:19:40] You know, it's like you lie, but you can't tell that to your patients. And then, and then you go. Oh, you know, doctor, you know that, uh, the patient is a drug— former drug addict— and says, "I've been clean for a year.", and you see the dopamine like down like almost flat, and said lie, you know, but you can't say that also directly, you know?

[00:20:02] So this is the way you can objectively say, okay, you know, the way you elicit these things, you may not be able to elicit what's going on, you know, unless you have an objective measure. And of course, when you're... when you're eliciting the history of patient— especially for men— and you say, how's your, you know, how's your sex life?

[00:20:22] And they go, "Oh, I don't have any problems with that." And you try again. So it's, "How is your erection doing? No, I'm having a problem." But, so you have to go like five ways in order to elicit a proper— you know, exactly why they came to you in the first place. And anyway, the, the funny stories are actually they have, are actually more with women.

[00:20:42] So when you start hormone therapy for women, you know, they— for the first three months— the body adjusts. And this is a 65-year-old woman, you know, and you start bleeding slightly during the, the period. And then after about, you know, uh, three months or so, the whole thing disappears. So. The woman was very, um, upset and called me, said, "I'm bleeding again.", Et cetera, et cetera, and I said, "Where are you?"

[00:21:10] And, um, well, I said- she said, I'm, I'm here at the drugstore. And I said, "Well, do you want me to ablate the bre- the bleeding?" You know, it's like, "We can stop that. We can change your dose." And she says, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's like, I feel like a teenager shopping for sanitary pads and tampons again." It's like, you never know what the client wants.

[00:21:32] Right. It's like most you say, no, I don't like that anymore. But she was saying, no, I wanna buy these tampons and all of these things that, you know, I haven't, I haven't bought since forever. And of course she said, "Oh my God, Dr. Ted, all of these salespeople are looking at me like, like, I don't belong here."

[00:21:52] But, but anyway. Um, that's one. And then the other one was of course, uh, you know, again, hormone balancing and, and, um, she calls me up very angry and she says, "Dr. Ted, I used to be a C-cup, now I'm a D-cup." And I said, um, "You don't like?" "You know, actually I like it because now I can really push it out." Anyway—

[00:22:21] Jodi Duval: We're gonna get lots more questions now on HOMeHOPe. 

[00:22:23] Boomer Anderson: Yeah, i, I, I think, um, you know what's funny is that Kylie— Ky- it's Kylie Jenner, right? So Kylie Jenner's plastic surgeon just got exposed, the person who did all of her breast and plants. And so now people are gonna come after you, Dr. Ted, to figure out how to do it without having—

[00:22:39] Dr. Jup Kuipers: She had plastic surgery?

[00:22:41] Boomer Anderson: Uh, no, I was shocked too. Don't worry. All right. 

[00:22:47] Dr. Ted Achacoso: But, but anyway, uh, just to show you, you know, uh, with, uh, with, uh, Health Optimization Medicine Practice— you could actually take a look, uh, uh, and verify what your, what your, uh, patient or client is saying, you know? Um. Whether or not they're vegan or, you know, I take so much of this, et cetera, you could take a look at them from the metabolomic profile.

[00:23:10] Right. And then two, two, surprising people's behaviors, what they like and what they don't like. Right. I, you know, there's a major assumption that, you know, postmenopausal women don't like mensing anymore, but it took me by surprise that there are actually some women who like it. So you just have to listen and, uh, we are very, very, uh, patient centric.

[00:23:29] We take the reins of health together, right. With the patient or the client. We are not like the classic illness medicine doctor who we just basically whips you and say, "Here, take this, do this, et cetera, et cetera." You know, we don't have a God-like behavior. We actually co-manage the patient with the patient itself because of the patient, or the client does know his or her body better than we do, right?

[00:23:54] So we have to continue asking. Because this is bespoke to the individual, then they can tell us of the little things that are actually affecting them or hap- happening in their lives. And that's how we, together with the objective measures like the metabolite levels, hormone levels, and so on, we also adapted. To, to how they're feeling, right. Uh, and adjust it to their lifestyle.

[00:24:16] Uh, for example, actors and actresses, they usually start their filming at around, you know, 2:00 AM, 3:00 AM so you have a- to adjust, you know, their meal schedules and their supplement schedules and so on according to the lifestyle. And there are people who...

[00:24:32] As CEOs of, of, uh, of companies, they have to socialize until late at night. So you have all of these adjustments that you need to do, but we have to remember that we are actually after the quality of their lives, right, that, uh, they're actually able to do all these things in a healthy way. So, and the health optimization does just that by adjusting everything to the individual's needs and to the way they feel. Okay? 

[00:25:00] Jodi Duval: Yeah.

[00:25:00] Boomer Anderson: All right, cool. So, Jodi, you made it all the way through and I did, and I, I will encourage everybody to, if you wanna vote, uh, if you're watching this podcast and you want to vote for who should have a separate side show to discuss their DMs, uh, we have two proposals on the deck here. Uh, one with two, three, actually.

[00:25:20] Three. Three, that's right. Well, I was gonna combine Dr. Kuiper and Dr. Bookatz, uh, to really, uh, do. The garden hose special, but if you want, Jodi, please leave a comment if, if you'd like the Alan and Jup show. Uh, you can also leave a comment as well. And, uh, thank you guys, everybody for sharing all of your fun loving DMs messages and personal favorite comments about being a practitioner.

[00:25:49] For everybody listening, thank you tuning in to the Smarter Not Harder Podcast where we give you one cent solutions to common health optimization questions. And remember, always live life smarter, not harder.