In this episode of the Smarter Not Harder Podcast, Boomer Anderson, Dr. Theodore Achacoso, Dr. Scott Sherr, Jodi Duval, and Dr. Allen Bookatz give one-cent solutions to life’s $64,000 questions that include:
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What are the quirkiest health practices biohackers actually try at home?
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How can extreme supplement routines teach us about true health optimization?
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Is “sunning” different body parts really beneficial for vitamin D?
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Why do biohackers use red lights, mouth tape, and unusual bedtime rituals?
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How can embarrassing experiments lead to better wellness frameworks?
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro: New biomarker joke and faculty banter
00:23 Welcome to the Smarter Not Harder Podcast
01:04 The most embarrassing wellness habits
02:13 Jodi’s elaborate morning coffee and microdosing rituals
03:36 Restaurant requests that drive family crazy
04:58 Bedtime routines, red lights, and mouth tape
06:18 Movement obsession and public stretching
07:48 Dr. Allen’s meditation pyramid and thong sunbathing story
13:00 Vitamin D hacks, solar callus, and drone encounters
15:07 Boomer’s barefoot grounding and sunrise routines in Amsterdam
18:00 Electrodes, red lights, and “forgiveness meditation”
20:02 Scott’s sauna sessions and peptide injection mishap
23:26 Ted’s 180-pill days and the rise of the HOMeHOPe framework
29:25 Lessons from quirky health hacks and biohacking gone too far
32:45 Faculty reflections and closing thoughts
Full Transcript:
[00:00:00] Boomer Anderson: Hey guys. New- new biomarker for longevity. Thigh diameter. D- diameter, yeah, maybe thigh circumference. I don't know-
[00:00:07] Dr. Ted Achacoso: The what? Do you count the rings?
[00:00:10] Boomer Anderson: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
[00:00:23] Dr. Scott Sherr: Welcome everybody back to the Smarter Not Harder podcast. Your home for one cent solutions to $64,000 questions. Well, we have all of the hosts of the Smarter Not Harder Podcast with us today, the Faculty of HOMeHOPe, and we'll have our awesome shirts on our Biont Hacker shirt. If you guys are watching on YouTube, these are our shirts that correspond to multiple things related to HOMeHOPe.
[00:00:43] The holobiont hacking is the Saluneotanolholobiontology that Dr. Ted truly told us.
[00:00:48] Boomer Anderson: Wow, you did it. He did it. Boom, boom, boom. Home.
[00:00:50] Dr. Scott Sherr: I've practiced it a couple times. Yeah, good. But the hoby, the whole organism. We hack that at HOMeHOPe. Hope you can check it out@homehope.org.
[00:00:57] Boomer Anderson: Actually leave a comment here in the notes if [00:01:00] you want a share, and we can see if we can get enough to actually warrant some bigger short orders.
[00:01:04] Dr. Scott Sherr: So the topic today, uh, our topic extraordinaire. Our topic queen, is. Miss Jody Duval. She always has the best one. So this one is a great one. This is, what do we do that embarrasses the crap out of our families because of what we do or the people we live with, or the people that know us, or whatever it might be.
[00:01:21] I'm sure all of us, or maybe it just me, have about a thousand different stories for this, but Jody, what do you do on a regular basis? What have you done that has embarrassed on a fun? Okay, exciting. All right.
[00:01:31] Jodi Duval: Oh gosh. And there's so many, right? Uh, and I think you go through it in and out of these trials of certain things that you're doing all the time.
[00:01:39] So morning coffee is one of those. And, and Ted hands down's probably gonna beat me here anyway, but my load up in the morning, it takes me so long to get my coffee together and the powders that go into it. And now I've got, um, a microdose going into it. And then I've got,
[00:01:54] Boomer Anderson: do you include a moment for an apology to the coffee?
[00:01:59] Or from [00:02:00] calling a coffee?
[00:02:00] Jodi Duval: I think I've actually nailed the coffee taste with still the additions. And it depends on how much perfect tomatoes I put in there. The bitterness can be variable, but I don't do the mud like tenders, so we'll. We'll, we'll leave it there.
[00:02:13] Dr. Ted Achacoso: I appreciate that. You know, there are some psychedelics that you put in there for me.
[00:02:17] I have psychedelic days and nons psychedelic days. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And there's a wake up thing where you say. Hmm. My brain feels sluggish today. And so you add some dopaminergic booster in there, whatever you wanna put right, that is available to you. Now, my coffee mug actually has a schedule-
[00:02:34] Jodi Duval: We can't psychedelic every day.
[00:02:35] Mine has sort of like a, a rotational, um, aspect to it as well. My, my drink, but. I think the most embarrassing is when we're at a restaurant, um, because I'll always request very weird and odd things and things to be removed. I've always been,
[00:02:49] Dr. Ted Achacoso: Well, you can't beat Scott on that.
[00:02:50] Dr. Scott Sherr: I bet she can.
[00:02:51] Dr. Ted Achacoso: No, no, no,
[00:02:52] Boomer Anderson: No. Bet you can't.
[00:02:53] No. Let's, I wanna hear a challenge. Let's, what? We're gonna see this, I think this is actually like a [00:03:00] cage fight challenge for doctor preferences. Here we go.
[00:03:02] Jodi Duval: I used to be worse. Now I swallow my pride a little bit more sometimes, but. It's normally glu, gluten free, dairy free. It has to be vegetable oil out.
[00:03:09] I ask where it's come from, how it's being cooked. What oils is it in? She's
[00:03:14] Dr. Scott Sherr: worse than me. I told you. Yeah.
[00:03:16] Jodi Duval: It depends on, it depends on the day. Sky, the smile, and then I wonder if they've spat in it afterwards. So there's always these questions that come on.
[00:03:23] Dr. Allen Bookatz: What does your, Jody, what does your husband say when you ask all those things after he is made you dinner?
[00:03:27] Jodi Duval: Um, when he makes me dinner, that's the question. Ah,
[00:03:36] Boomer Anderson: so you're saying he doesn't, he actually, he actually gave up five years ago. You
[00:03:41] Jodi Duval: work, you get a lot of that. And probably the other thing that my bedtime routine has lessened over the years, but it used to be a lot worse. It used to be a lot worse. Yeah.
[00:03:50] Um, SORNA Scott, are you gonna
[00:03:52] Boomer Anderson: go into your bedtime routine? Well, yeah.
[00:03:55] Jodi Duval: I wanna hear Scott's after this. No, no, no.
[00:03:57] Boomer Anderson: Jody, let's hear your bedtime routine. I wanna, [00:04:00] I wanna hear it 'cause I need ideas.
[00:04:01] Jodi Duval: Well, no, I think for me it's either a hot bath, a hot shower. I generally have some sort of meditation routine there, or a book reading episode.
[00:04:11] You've got my red glasses on. Everything in the house has to be no light, so that's where I'm the most embarrassing. As soon as someone turns a light on, I'm screaming at them to turn the light off. Um, so it has, the whole house has to be dark or red, red lights in it. So we've got red lights in the bathroom, red lights in the rooms, red lights in my bedroom.
[00:04:29] Um, and then I, I used to do a bit of mouth tape and I don't need to do that anymore. So that used to, now it's my husband actually, he has the mouse tape, so he looks like the weirdo. He actually had a dental appliance that he would put in his mouth that was like a full head thing. So he was winning on that.
[00:04:45] That one headgear,
[00:04:46] Dr. Scott Sherr: the total headgear. Wow. That'ss Classic. He had headgear.
[00:04:49] Jodi Duval: Yeah. That was not sexy at all. Yeah. Was that your fetish, not metal? Um, yeah.
[00:04:58] Boomer Anderson: I mean, I, I could see [00:05:00] where Ted would ask that question. Yeah.
[00:05:02] Jodi Duval: Now, now I've put like a, something I put on my, my chest. So it's like a, um, a, a piece to stop my wrinkles in the chest.
[00:05:10] So I'll put that there.
[00:05:12] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Wait, wait, wait, wait. This is while sleeping. This is
[00:05:16] Jodi Duval: while sleeping. While sleeping. Yeah. Wrinkles. It's like a, like a wrinkle. Wrinkles keep the like, so it's like a little piece, like, does this, and it's sort of it. He holds my skin out. It sticks to me and so it holds my skin out so I don't get the wrinkles when I wake up in the morning from my boobs squashing together.
[00:05:33] Mm,
[00:05:34] Dr. Ted Achacoso: wow. Okay. Got it. Was thinking how I was to do with face. She wears two pea, uh, bikinis, so Yeah, I understand. Very, I understand the rationals
[00:05:44] Boomer Anderson: very, yeah. Yeah. Totally get it. Um, um, I was doing some face taking for a
[00:05:48] Jodi Duval: while.
[00:05:49] Dr. Scott Sherr: Interesting.
[00:05:49] Boomer Anderson: Okay. Face SAP's a big thing. Now I've seen, haven't this, doing that
[00:05:53] Jodi Duval: for a while, but I find the chest pace is better and I just deal with my wrinkles on my face when I squash it on the side.
[00:05:59] [00:06:00] Tried to sleep on my back for a while. That didn't work. I like sleeping on my side in a ball. Curl up. Um, so then, so that's my sort of sleep routine. That varies depending on how tired or what I'm aiming to get in terms of deep sleep scores. And that will, that will shift. Um, magnesium, sometimes I load in and I'm trying to skull magnesium before bed.
[00:06:18] Um, but then my movement schedule's always been the most embarrassing for everyone because I would be stretching or moving, or in a hotel room trying to do my abs or trying to do my, um, sit ups push. In our hotel room and I wouldn't be able to go anywhere until I actually finished my movement or my stretches or my, my weird yoga poses that I would be doing.
[00:06:40] Um, 'cause I'm movement's so important for my mental health. So yeah, they're always the most embarrassing and so I'll stop anywhere and do a stretch and a park or do some like lifts and I, I really don't care of how I look. But everyone's like, oh, come on. Let's not do that out in the public. Mom, you, you're in embarrassing.
[00:06:58] Stop stretching over. You'll [00:07:00] throwing your bum to everyone. At
[00:07:01] Dr. Ted Achacoso: least it's a bubble movement.
[00:07:02] Boomer Anderson: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, actually she's doing all of this for bowel movement, right? Mm-hmm. It helps. Sure.
[00:07:09] Dr. Ted Achacoso: I like, like I said, say in my lectures, all movement is good movement, especially bowel movement.
[00:07:17] Jodi Duval: Exactly. And squatting.
[00:07:18] Like, we went for a walk on Sunday in the bush and I was so busting. I was like, guys, you're just gonna have to look away. So I had to go find a tree. And so we just squat, you know? It's good movement. We're squatting, we're gonna toilet, you know, it wasn't a food out. This is the outback toilet. Yeah.
[00:07:34] Boomer Anderson: Anyway,
[00:07:34] Jodi Duval: that my, my, wow.
[00:07:36] This is,
[00:07:36] Boomer Anderson: this is, this is great. Wow. Yeah. Scott. Scott, I think you just got served. Sorry. I, I have not, I got nothing
[00:07:42] Dr. Scott Sherr: on that. Yeah. Yeah, I got nothing.
[00:07:45] Jodi Duval: Oh dear. No, that was great.
[00:07:48] Dr. Scott Sherr: No, thank you for sharing, Jody. Um, well, how about, uh, Dr. Bukas, do you have anything to add here as far as wow, things that you do, maybe it's your pyramid that you have at your house, or, Ooh, that's a good one.
[00:07:59] I [00:08:00] mean, that's a,
[00:08:01] Dr. Allen Bookatz: in the middle, you just, your house threw that out there. Yeah, yeah. I do. I do have a pyramid. That was not the one I was thinking of, but we can talk about the pyramid. Sure. Uh, I do have this. Pyramid, uh, in my, in my living room. My wife is very understanding. Yes. Uh. So I have different levels of how I explain.
[00:08:19] Its, uh, its purpose and utility. So
[00:08:24] Jodi Duval: this pyramid, I need to have an image challenge. I just tell
[00:08:26] Dr. Allen Bookatz: people that, you know, I do witchcraft and you know, and if you, it's like a meditation pyramid. That's what it is. It's a, it's like
[00:08:32] Dr. Ted Achacoso: a chamber, a
[00:08:33] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Jody, where he is inside, you know, you go, it's like, it's like, look. Be
[00:08:38] Boomer Anderson: really, if you've seen season four of the Bear, the last, one of the last episodes where they're at sort of the wedding and like the girl goes underneath the table, it's like where you go underneath the table, right?
[00:08:47] It's like it's
[00:08:47] Dr. Allen Bookatz: the
[00:08:48] Boomer Anderson: into campsite.
[00:08:49] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Multi multipurpose. Yeah. No, it's, you go into the pyramid and then you just, everything else. Stays outside of the pyramid, you know, and helps you relax and, you know, meditate and, you [00:09:00] know, what was that actually agree with that
[00:09:01] Dr. Scott Sherr: autistic lady that like went into a, a stable and like hugged yourself with the, with the cows and the horses to calm herself down.
[00:09:09] You remember what I'm talking about? There's a movie about this. It sounds like you I can fucking
[00:09:13] Dr. Allen Bookatz: do that To watch.
[00:09:15] Dr. Scott Sherr: No, the thing I was,
[00:09:15] Dr. Allen Bookatz: I was actually
[00:09:16] thinking, she's very famous. I name.
[00:09:19] So I live, so Scott's been in my place in, uh, in Los Angeles, and I live near the coast. And I think the first time that I really started diving into the importance of vitamin D and had my levels checked, and they were like in the twenties, um, I remember getting very alarmed, right?
[00:09:36] And I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, vitamin D is this, you know, it is not really a, a vitamin, it's a, it's a hormone, right? And it's really a master regulator of so many things. And so, as I was getting really. Uh, we'll call it, focused on maximizing that. And I felt that I should be able to get this by sun exposure 'cause I have no excuse.
[00:09:54] Right. We live in Southern California and if you look on the D Minder app, which tells you the [00:10:00] various, you know, times of day that you can actually generate vitamin D, there's, there's ample opportunity. So I start going out there and I start out like just kind of bare chested and, you know, full, you know, just full sort of, uh, face, you know, face exposure, no sunscreen whatsoever.
[00:10:16] And then I kept getting like burned on my face, right? And the levels were like going up marginally, but not really significantly. So I was like, okay, well how do I, how do I really maximize this? And I'm like, okay, well I just need more exposure. Right? So, you know, I kind of slowly like moved to, let's just say less and less revealing clothing all.
[00:10:35] To the point where I essentially got, I purchased a, a thong, uh, off of, you know, Amazon. And there's not really, there weren't a lot of discreet ones. And I found this, I found this like fun, uh, movie really too much here. A thong is
[00:10:48] Dr. Ted Achacoso: never discrete.
[00:10:50] Boomer Anderson: You're right, there's not a lot of, I mean, I'm discrete. This wasn't, this wasn't like black lace.
[00:10:54] This is
[00:10:55] Dr. Allen Bookatz: like full on. No, no. This was like, I mean, it was quite skimpy. It literally had like a Joey pouch in front and [00:11:00] that was it. By definition
[00:11:02] skimmed me. It was a Joey pouch, right? It's true. Cool. It was a Joey
[00:11:05] pouch in the front. Right. And uh, there's a lot of animals you could choose from. I extra was a wolf, you know, so it had a big wolf face on the front.
[00:11:11] Uh, and, uh, it's, and, but I kept getting burned and I was like, I need a hat, you know, that I could like lay out and just come my face. You're totally
[00:11:19] Boomer Anderson: Zach Gki and, and hangover one hand, one factor. There's, yeah, there's this here. Yeah.
[00:11:24] Dr. Allen Bookatz: So I, so I'm on my, um, looking at these all, I'm trying to find like a wide brim hat and there's not really a lot of like masculine looking wide brim hats and, but I did find one that was sort of like pink and it was kind of like this color and I was like, whatever, you know, it's my home.
[00:11:40] Uh, and I was like, it's my house. You know, like I'm on the roof. No one's really looking. Right. So I get this like wide brim pink hat, you know, that's like US Spice. Oh yeah. And uh, you know, there's a few of us that are on the roof. We kind of looked like nod to each other, you know? And so I had been sort of the first few [00:12:00] times, understandably, you're a little nervous about what you're doing and you have to sort of explain to your neighbors like, Hey, it just.
[00:12:06] Just what we're, you know, what, what I'm into right now. Right. They, they were very understanding, you know, thank goodness you say,
[00:12:12] Dr. Ted Achacoso: are you
[00:12:12] Dr. Allen Bookatz: pre-op or something?
[00:12:15] Dr. Ted Achacoso: Actually,
[00:12:15] Dr. Allen Bookatz: yeah, exactly. Got invited to some, yeah, some, some parties that I did not attend, but, uh, and, and so I got probably too comfortable with this and so I'm like laying, I remember I'm laying with my wide brim hat.
[00:12:27] I got my, you know, thong on. I got, so, I got my, you know, full asses. Exposed ass cheeks are exposed thighs. We talked about thighs earlier. And all of a sudden, like, I'm there and my wife's next to me and she just like, whatever. And, and all of a sudden I, we hear this like, you know, and I was like, what is that?
[00:12:44] I, you know, I think it's like a wasp and it's getting closer and closer and all of a sudden, like I turn, I like flip around, right? You know, all in glory. And it's this drone that's like some, someone
[00:12:57] in the area's got a drone and it's literally like [00:13:00] six feet in front. I look at the camera looking right at me, and it was like, Z, Z, Z, Z.
[00:13:05] And then I was like, hello. Oh, look, you're being
[00:13:07] Dr. Ted Achacoso: live streamed.
[00:13:08] Boomer Anderson: Uh, everybody
[00:13:09] Dr. Allen Bookatz: go OnlyFans or PornHub now check, you know, the, the drone went away and never heard from it again. So must have broke the screen. Or
[00:13:16] Jodi Duval: probably some kid. And then I've just gone completely. Yeah,
[00:13:20] Dr. Allen Bookatz: completely traumatized. You can imagine.
[00:13:22] Exactly. You can imagine like pink hat, you know, cheeks. They're probably thinking, ooh, you know, I, I still getting away with something. And then
[00:13:29] Dr. Scott Sherr: around how often are you using this song as the question, Alan? Is this something that you wear to the
[00:13:33] Dr. Allen Bookatz: er just to remind yourself? No
[00:13:35] Boomer Anderson: tan lines, no tan lines. No tan
[00:13:37] Dr. Allen Bookatz: lines.
[00:13:38] Uh, I, it turns out that, uh, if you have not sunned an area very often and then you go into like UB 10. And, you know, you're used to like, oh, I staying out for 30 minutes or so. Turns out that those areas burn very quickly and, uh, if you get your ass, like your ass burned, it's very painful. So I learned that very quickly.
[00:13:58] Uh, so advocating [00:14:00] for everyone. Sensible sun exposure. Build your solar callus up, um, and uh, you know, for those that, uh, so sun your ass
[00:14:07] Dr. Scott Sherr: like in the morning at sunrise, then sun as at bedtime, like sunset to debunk this one. That'll be different podcast on
[00:14:17] Boomer Anderson: social media. Scott,
[00:14:18] Dr. Scott Sherr: like, I think that we have to use this as a, as a definition of why the solar callous is important.
[00:14:22] Ellen, so thank you. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
[00:14:25] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Yeah.
[00:14:25] Dr. Scott Sherr: So
[00:14:25] Dr. Allen Bookatz: learn from learn from me folks.
[00:14:27] Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah. Well, you guys have definitely went up to all of my stories already, but, um, so wife is not so, uh, yeah, she's very, she's very, very understanding, very tolerant. Yeah. You went on the roof in a, in a thong with a pink cat.
[00:14:40] Um, it's great. I love it. She loves you.
[00:14:44] Dr. Allen Bookatz: She does love
[00:14:44] Dr. Scott Sherr: me very much.
[00:14:45] Dr. Ted Achacoso: She's very understanding. He, he, he, he was totally gunning for, you know, uh, gender reassignment, pre-op look.
[00:14:58] Dr. Allen Bookatz: Yeah. Wow, Eileen. [00:15:00] Yeah. Yeah. Highly inclusive here. So.
[00:15:03] Dr. Scott Sherr: So let's, let's head over to, to Mr. Anderson. Um, what
[00:15:07] Boomer Anderson: does he got? This is the one time where I, I feel like I am going to let so many people down because by comparison, like. How do you follow that shit? I think
[00:15:16] Dr. Scott Sherr: we can probably just finish the podcast now, to be honest.
[00:15:18] Yeah. I, I think you should. No, no.
[00:15:20] Boomer Anderson: We gotta hear from No, no. So like, I, I, I have a few things that usually involves like accidentally ingesting too much of a certain molecule, um, having an FDA of a certain country show up at your house, that, that kind of stuff. But I think let's kind of take it too. What used to happen, and that was probably more significant than now, what does happen and what causes me to get told that I'm weird, so.
[00:15:47] Uh, few years back, this is back when I was living in Amsterdam. I used to have the same morning routine that everybody else does. Uh, here in terms of in the morning, during the Dutch summer, I would walk around, [00:16:00] I'd go outside, walk around with my shirt off, and sort of no shoes, bare feet portion of that walk is on pavement.
[00:16:07] Um, and, and so this is like. Between four and six o'clock in the morning sometimes because the way our, our apartment was at the time, the shine, the light would shine in into our. Our house and I, I'm incredibly yoked to the sun. So I'd wake up very, very early. And I think at that point Ted and Scott would know that that was when I would check in with them before they would go to sleep.
[00:16:30] But I was walking around one time in my bare feet, no shirt, and my, one of my wife's really good friends was saying goodbye to whatever she was doing the night before. And, um. Happened to like see me walking around and I think at this point, you know, I was kind of embarrassed 'cause like it's six o'clock in the morning, nothing's, you know, just walking around getting my suntan on and, you know, grounding as all every good person does.
[00:16:56] And I would bring, like Jody, I would bring like some [00:17:00] ropes with me and so I did something called the inertia wave. And I would have, I would do like, uh, Jefferson curls with a, uh, a kettlebell, you know, all that stuff. And I looked over to her and, you know, I waved her. Didn't really want to interrupt her goodbye moment, but it was, um, like she looked at me and she just said, uh, that's just Boomer.
[00:17:21] Um, and so it was just one of those things where, you know, people are kind of used to it because yeah, like I tried a lot of weird stuff. Um. But I think what happens now, and you're kind of, if you're watching this on video, you're in my zen dem. And so, uh, what happens more now? And if you have, um. If you've ever seen the movie Air, which is a movie slightly based on a book called Shoe Dog, about Phil Knight from Nike, there's a moment where Ben Affleck is like laying on his couch and he plays, uh, Phil Knight and somebody comes into his room, like walks into his room and he is like, be quiet, and the guy's like why?
[00:17:59] He's [00:18:00] like. I'm doing a forgiveness meditation, right? That that's more, that's more of what happens now. And so when we were actually watching Eric, my wife, uh, said, that's you when, um, when that scene happened. So what happens now is you walk into the, the zenden and these days I'm sort of hooked up to these electrodes and doing something that resembles sort of anything from electric ma masochism to electric.
[00:18:25] Meditation. Um, and then, you know, previously I'd have red lights, uh, uh, attached to a lot of places. Right now it's just to my knee. So that's, that's it. And, um, fortunately, even after, uh, Alan and Jody, I feel like I'm boring. So, uh,
[00:18:41] Dr. Allen Bookatz: what were those, uh, red lights attached to? Maybe you can
[00:18:44] Boomer Anderson: Yeah. Redeem yourself.
[00:18:45] Um, yeah, in my nose on my skull. Yeah. I, I never really got to the level of red light catheter, but, um, you know, uh, it was
[00:18:54] Dr. Ted Achacoso: Oh, okay. That's gonna be called red light sounding.
[00:18:56] Boomer Anderson: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Ouch. [00:19:00] So, uh, so we, we haven't really explored those yet, or, or I haven't figured out a way to do like a coffee enema with a, with a red light.
[00:19:06] Um, but I, I haven't done coffee on in a long time. Anyway, uh, for the dismount there, I would just encourage everybody, if you want a good movie to watch this weekend when you're not watching the F1 movie Squid Game or The Bear Season Four Air, uh, with Phil Knight Shoe Dog. That's also a really good book.
[00:19:24] Cool. Um, I think Scott, back to.
[00:19:27] Dr. Scott Sherr: Okay, well, I guess Dr. Ted, I would actually prefer you go last because you're better at that. But given I'm the host, I, you, you to ahead
[00:19:35] Dr. Ted Achacoso: Scott because, uh, you, you know, you've just been served by Jody. So I am, it was just as a preface here, you know, my colon Scott, Scott has significantly toned down ever since I, I told him that.
[00:19:51] Uh, you know, enlightenment is easier. You have no preferences. So after several years he's tone down a little bit, but you know, he can still be [00:20:00] that kind of person in a restaurant.
[00:20:02] Dr. Scott Sherr: I can be, I can be, I don't go as far as ask for the oils, Jody. That's the part that Good, I'm impressed. Like I will not ask about sea oils.
[00:20:09] I've only done
[00:20:09] Boomer Anderson: that once. And what it was shocked when they only came, they came back to me and like, they only gave me a scallop and that was it. So
[00:20:17] Dr. Scott Sherr: that's, that's, you have, you know, that's the risk if you ask about that or they spit in your food like you said, Jody. Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing that I do to embarrass my family is I have an infrared sauna and I don't wear clothes in it and I warn them.
[00:20:31] Ahead of time, like, look, I'm not going to have clothes in the sauna. And so over the years they would come down and see me without my clothes and like, like my little, my kids would start screaming and I'd be like. And, uh, so now nobody comes in to where the sauna is. Um, currently it's temporarily in my garage, so, uh, they do not try to find me when the But do you leave the garage
[00:20:55] Boomer Anderson: door open now?
[00:20:56] Dr. Scott Sherr: That's real question. Do, it's unlocked. It's unlocked, but the [00:21:00] door's not open.
[00:21:00] Jodi Duval: Now the night is get the view viewing done. We're just trying to get
[00:21:03] Dr. Scott Sherr: a sense of exhibitionism here. That's, well, I actually been wondering that lately, Jody, because we're, I'm in the garage and they're like, our neighbors just moved back in across the street and I can kind of see their lights.
[00:21:11] I'm like. Can they see me? If you, if you can
[00:21:16] Boomer Anderson: see
[00:21:16] Dr. Scott Sherr: them, they, they can see you. I've been wondering about this, but I mean, that's the most embarrassing thing I do typically, uh, with, you know, with, with my kids. I think I'm, I have an embarrassing story related to taking a certain peptide that's also. Kind of funny.
[00:21:30] I was taking the cjc IPAMORELIN combination and I was getting these little welts when I injected into my abdomen and I was like, oh, this is fine. You know, I was talking to the people. They get wel, it's not a big deal, but I accidentally one time, instead of injecting into my subcutaneous. Area I injected into a vein and I got, what's funny is, is
[00:21:50] Boomer Anderson: none
[00:21:51] Dr. Scott Sherr: of us are shocked because you've done it before.
[00:21:53] I have. And so I've learned my lesson, but it took me a while. Um, but in any regard. But, but have you, [00:22:00] have you, so, but that, that's always, I guess, what makes No,
[00:22:02] Dr. Ted Achacoso: that, that's just him showing off about his percent body fat. Like his sub fat. Yeah. Or just my epigastric. That's a showing off
[00:22:09] Dr. Scott Sherr: thing. I'm very veiny and very vain in general.
[00:22:12] But so what's interesting is that. I started getting allergic reaction because I, those welts that I was getting on my, on my abdomen before were wheels of like a hive basically. And so I started getting itching on my palms. I started breaking out into a sweat and my, my, my feet started itching too. And this is at midnight and.
[00:22:31] You guys know this, but my wife is an allergy immunology doctor, right? And I tell her at midnight that I'm having this allergic reaction. And she goes, are you fucking kidding? Did you just be like, did you really just do this to yourself? Are you gonna die by supplement? And she was onto something at the time.
[00:22:50] So all I did was. Takes some Allegra and she forced me to stay up for an hour to make sure I didn't have a full fledged allergic reaction. And [00:23:00] yes. So that was kind of embarrassing, I would say. So I've since not used any CJC Epi Moreland combinations.
[00:23:07] Boomer Anderson: So with, but have you injected in any veins recently?
[00:23:11] Dr. Scott Sherr: Not recently, no. But since then, one more time by accident, but let's, that's another story for another day. But I learned my lesson maybe, I don't know. Partly it's hard to tell Dr. Ted what do you have to do to, uh, to enlighten?
[00:23:26] Dr. Ted Achacoso: Well, you, you know, um, mine is degrees of embarrassment, right? So, you know, depending on this, your lifecycle, when I was younger, I used to be quite militaristic, AKA in boomer lance discipline with my intake of supplements and so on and so forth.
[00:23:43] So, you know, I would take up my. Bag of like 180 supplements and take all of them. This was before I actually, uh, started a framework of HOMeHOPe. Right? Because each time I read something like, oh, this is a good addition. And another one, oh, this is another good addition and another [00:24:00] good addition. And pretty soon I was taking like 180 pills a day.
[00:24:04] And it's like, the thing is I'm not even sick. So the other thing that happened as a, uh, uh, uh, sequela of that is that, uh, you know, my, uh. From a baseline of like $600 a month in supplements, it became like solely rising to like 700. And then I said, this has gotta stop, right? So, so then I, uh, I said, what can I do to actually measure this stuff?
[00:24:29] Right? And that's where, uh, you know, I, I actually went and studied metabolomics as well. This is available now. And so, and then, so I only started buying the supplements that I actually needed for my body, right? So I basically dropped in my, um, uh, supplementation unless I was testing a new one. Right? Uh, uh, a new supplement.
[00:24:51] The second thing is that, but there's also an initial rising cost because there is so many devices in the house, and [00:25:00] I am like, uh, you know, not even a beta tester. I'm an alpha tester. You put it out there, you know, um, those, um, remember those lucid dreaming devices that they had before, you know, uh, where you could record your voice, et cetera, and they were so painful on the head.
[00:25:14] You know, I would take like. You know, a, a drug, uh, glanine, you know, just, just in induce it, see how it can be inducing other people. And then, you know, um, uh, uh, from, from those, uh, uh, stimulators of the brain and so on, uh, it was just. You know, and then afterwards it was like, no, no, no. How can I monitor, uh, things that better for my health?
[00:25:39] And that's where, you know, you get into the smaller device as well. They're just as expensive. Like, you know, Oura rings and whoop and all of these, uh, things, right? But at that time, you know, it's now easier to get. Your friends to buy all those other devices and say what's your experience with it? Rather than, you know, trying everything yourself.
[00:25:58] So, [00:26:00] and then I think this is true for all of us. If you live with someone who actually manages the kitchen, for example, the CRE of your supplements in the cabinet will get you into arguments like. Supplements occupying my entire shelves now, once a month. Oh, that, I think
[00:26:19] Boomer Anderson: that happens to all of us here.
[00:26:21] Yeah. Once a month at least.
[00:26:23] Dr. Ted Achacoso: And, and it's like, wait a minute, it's not just my shelves, it's also half of the storage space, you know, downstairs. Like, what are these? And not even reading there. Why are there boxes snow on the.
[00:26:41] So, but, but you know, um, as, as always, there's always a good response. And at Health Optimization Medicine practice, we teach our practitioners how to respond properly, right? And how to respond properly is, hey, but look at the results, right? So. That's a challenge of health optimization, medicine and practice, [00:27:00] is that you cannot be an unhealthy practitioner because you have to walk the talk.
[00:27:05] Right. And sort of like, for me, it's a blessing that I, you know, I, I created this framework and actually teaching it to students and, and now you guys are teaching this, but for me it's like, it's also a curse because shit, I cannot slack off on any of this stuff. If, if there's a, if, if there's even a whiff that you know, oh, he's sick, he's under the weather.
[00:27:27] No, no, no, no. That's forbidden. Or if you do feel under the weather, you should be out of it in like three or four hours. That's it. But, um, but, but anyway, uh, that's what, um, you know, those are the things, experiences that maybe put everything in a framework, you know, so you know exactly what you're doing with, you know, uh, uh, cold plunges and, and red lights, and uh, blue blockers and a full daylight.
[00:27:53] You know, and a vitamin. I have vitamin D lamps, I have, you know, all of these, uh, sorts of things. And, you [00:28:00] know, uh, boomer and I were talking a while ago, uh, you know, um, he just had some knee surgery and I said, uh, you know, all this, this, um, uh, electro simulation stuff, I even had those Russian devices that will simulate your muscles, you know, and, uh, you know, those, those old devices and now they're, they're all.
[00:28:19] Know, uh, they're, they're all, uh, uh, available now, but before it was hard to source them. Right? Those, uh, those, uh, bands, the Katsu bands, et cetera, I have the, like the top of line machine. Now we're not using them. So, you know, it's just an accumulation, all those things. But ultimately, I was just being lazy.
[00:28:36] I said, uh, can I get away with the, the minimal exercise at my age? Right? Before I used to be like, yes, I have to do like this three hours of workout every day, you know? Um. And there was a point when I was actually too muscle heavy that it was even uncomfortable for me. And the, the thing that, uh, you know, my, my crew, uh, noticed in the clinic was that I was walking like an ape, you know, it's like [00:29:00] over and, and the chest out and, and all of this.
[00:29:04] When I'd actually, um, um, do a pull up. I, I felt the, my heaviness, I like, this is not natural for my body type, right? Uh, I was, uh, I was just, uh, really, um, uh, uh, overdoing things and that's where you actually take a look at what's for your ideal body type and, and so on. So you start the calculations going and you got get serious.
[00:29:26] In, in the data. Now you're, you, you are actually monitoring the data, not only the metabolize inside your body, but your actual, uh, phenotypic, um, uh, uh, uh, data, right? Your, uh, your ratios and and so on. Uh, that, that's going on. And. So in all the benefit of all of those quirky, expensive, you know, supplements and, and, and, and the equipment and devices and so on, was actually push me to develop this framework where we can hang all of our [00:30:00] biohacks, right?
[00:30:01] So you know exactly where in the system you're actually hanging. All of these things that you're doing yourself, you know, rather than willy-nilly just putting everything. Together, you know, to the embarrassment of your family or people around you. Uh, you know, you now have actually an actual frameworks.
[00:30:18] I'm doing this because, you know, here it is and I'm doing because well, here it's, mm-hmm. And so, well, Ted, you
[00:30:23] Dr. Scott Sherr: just described bio tacking basically, so there you go.
[00:30:27] Dr. Ted Achacoso: Yes, yes. You know, your body's an ecosystem of cells and we, in, in health optimization medicine, were basically, uh, hacking the fundamental cell, right?
[00:30:37] The ilam, mitochondria, et cetera. When we're talking about the cell, we may be talking about the muscle cells. You know, instead of looking at the muscle as the muscle itself, you take a look at it as well, you know, it's part of the metabolic, um, uh, expenditure of the body, right? Uh, it has, uh, it produces a lot of energy.
[00:30:55] It has a lot of mitochondria, you know, and it, it serves as a balance, uh, [00:31:00] to, to, um, uh, uh, the energy stores of the body. Uh, these, these are the kinds of things that we are looking at. You know, um, the energy pathways in general, in the cell, you know, basically is reflected in the energy pathways, uh, in the body itself.
[00:31:16] So, uh, you know, all of these quirks that we have, you know, uh, in the end we actually have, uh, you know, um, uh, we look back and we laugh and our family is still angry at us for some reason. Right? Uh, like for example, um. Uh, a boomer actually, uh, uh, blames me. Uh, well, it's your choice of sleep in a cup, but you know what?
[00:31:38] It's cheaper to have a, a co cooling system than a full fledged one. So
[00:31:43] Boomer Anderson: a amen. I paid for the full fledged one.
[00:31:47] Dr. Ted Achacoso: So, so, and, and then you learn about, you know, all of these devices, the more parts they have, the more that, the more likelihood that these parts will break. So you choose one that's actually has less parts, you know?
[00:31:58] Um, all of these lessons, [00:32:00] uh, we, uh, end up. Teaching ourselves and then sharing what we find with our students within the framework of health optimization medicine. Right. Uh, optimizing the health of the cell and the cellular networks. So that's the, um, that's the, uh, those are the quirky, uh, foundations for where, you know, all of the, uh, from, from where this framework arose.
[00:32:24] Dr. Scott Sherr: Love it. Love it. Well, this has been a fun. Podcast to record some great stories. Boomer, I'm actually, I
[00:32:31] Boomer Anderson: like, I'm, I'm surprised. Yeah.
[00:32:34] Dr. Scott Sherr: You're surprised at
[00:32:34] Boomer Anderson: what? No, I'm just surprised that like, I, I, I just am almost embarrassed that I couldn't come up with anything better, but like Jody and Alan, wow.
[00:32:44] Dr. Scott Sherr: You had the greatest stories in on our one, our podcast.
[00:32:46] We talked about 10 years ago, what you were doing. I think that was, that was impressive. So don't, don't worry. You, you, you'll get yourself, you've already, you, there'll be another podcast where you can yourself, I, I say bra. No, I
[00:32:55] Boomer Anderson: mean it's more like a bravo. Like, like well done.
[00:32:58] Dr. Scott Sherr: Yeah, well done. You guys out [00:33:00] flank,
[00:33:00] Boomer Anderson: Scott.
[00:33:00] That was I time I had like I was making markets over here on who would have the most,
[00:33:05] Dr. Scott Sherr: yeah. I definitely have the most people to embarrass in my house, but you guys definitely one level upleveled me. Even that even so depends. Depends
[00:33:12] Boomer Anderson: on if you include Alan's
[00:33:13] Dr. Ted Achacoso: children. Remember guys, the embarrassment depends on your age, right?
[00:33:18] If you have the gravitas to, to impose your quirk, then it's not an embarrassment. Right. Too old, but you're younger, you know, you and younger, you tend to follow more of these things. You believe all this stuff. Right, right. And then later on you get older and it's like, nah, you know, been there, done that, and it's the next one.
[00:33:35] And it's like, okay, nah, been there, done that. It's the next one. Next supplement, next device, next everything. But without any framework, you know, to guide you, you're fucked. So,
[00:33:47] Dr. Scott Sherr: yeah. Well, with that note, well thanks everybody for listening to another episode of The Smarter Than a Harder podcast, where we give you 1 cent solution to $64,000 questions.
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